Control Engine

Well, this is a list of pretty much anything we could ever want in our game. These controls would have to be introduced gradually. We will also include something called endurance in this game. It will constantly be regenerating at a speed of 1 Endurance Point per second. The following list will show how much points it uses. Enemies do not have endurance.

Movement:

• W: Jump (1 / jump)
  
• W,W: Double Jump (2 / second jump)
  
• F+W: High Jump (2 / jump)
  
• A: Left (1 / sec)
  
• S+A: Roll Left ( 2 /roll)
  
• D: Right (1 / sec)
  
• S+D: Roll Right (2 / roll)
  
• S: Crouch (1 / initial movement)
  
• F+S: Lay Down (2 / initial movement)
  
• F+Scroll Up: Climb Up (4 / second)
  
• F+Scroll Down: Climb Down (3 / second)
  
• T: Open/Close Parachute (1 / initial movement)

Battling Actions:

• Q: Next Weapon
  
• F+Q: Default Weapon
  
• E: Next Explosive
  
• F+E: Default Explosive
  
• Space Bar: Interaction 1
  
• F+Space Bar: Interaction 2
  
• Mouse: Aim
  
• Middle Button+Mouse: Precision Aiming
  
• Left Click: Use Weapon (Mode 1)
  
• Space Bar+Left Click: Use Weapon (Mode 2)
  
• F+Left Click: Use Weapon (Mode 3)
  
• F+Space Bar+Left Click: Use Weapon (Mode 4)
  
• Right Click: Use Explosive (Mode 1)
  
• Space Bar+ Right Click: Use Explosive (Mode 2)
  
• F+ Right Click: Use Explosive (Mode 3)
  
• F+Space Bar+ Right Click: Use Explosive (Mode 4)

Explanations:

• Interaction 1: The non-violent interactions. Flipping switches, opening doors, picking up items, etc.
  
• Interaction 2: The violent interactions. Destroying security cameras, disabling alarms, breaking windows, smashing crates, etc.
  
• *Note: When you pick up an item, such as a crate, you will be able to throw it. Your weapon will be put away though. Once you either throw or drop the item, your weapon will be returned to your hand.
  
• Attack Modes:
  
  • Mode 1: Use Weapon/Explosive
    
  • Mode 2: Drop Weapon/Explosive (makes it inactive)
    
  • Mode 3: Use Weapon/Explosive (rapid fire)
    
  • Mode 4: Throw Weapon/Explosive (makes it inactive, if it hits something it can cause a reaction)

Endurance Point Maximum:

• Level 1: 100
  
• Level 2: 102
  
• Level 3: 105
  
• Level 4: 109
  
• Level 5: 114
  
• Level 6: 120
  
• etc...

Have you started on any of this? Because making up random ideas that look good on paper, is very hard to implement.

current sugested
s shift
w space
f ctrl(maybe, f feels slightly clumsy. Maybe r or w...)

For controls I like less multitasking for each finger. These just don't feel right to me. We could do double key bindings, it wouldn't be that hard.

On second thought, my idea above is too confusing. We need to start small.

That is way too confusing. I suggest

--NO multitasking
--NO double jumping // this aint a fokin Sonic
--NO rolls/other acrobatic moves other than jumpin/crouching/running
--only stand or crouch
--I think shooting "modes" were already planned out: if a weapon has another firing mode, use right mouse button.
--Endurance is a bit confusing but good idea though, could affect your accuracy if you just ran 3 miles.
--Weapon switching throu Q/E
--Reload R
--For ladders, we can just check if the player is below them when pressing W so he starts climbing.

Bit simple though, No tatics, if a bullet comes your way, you get hit... If a bullet comes their way, they get it...

Ok. I'll go with your idea Hegemege.

I just hate programming shooting games...

In every game that has an endurance type thing it has just annoyed me from being an inconvienence to wrecking the game for me. I don't think endurance is a good idea. IF it gets in then it should have a very fast recharge rate. I don't want to sit arround and wait in a shooter game. (or in any game). Weapon overheat/reload things are fine.

Neko wrote:

Bit simple though, No tatics, if a bullet comes your way, you get hit... If a bullet comes their way, they get it...

Hence crouch or jump, two ways to dodge a bullet high or low.

I agree, but the near instant bullet thing doesn't seem to give you any time to dodge, slow bullets do.

Well yeah, but any time of movement/defense is going to have the same problem. You have the same problem in Halo or if you were in a real life firefight, it is a non-issue.

This is being discussed in another thread. We "decided" to go on with somewhat fast bulelts but not too fast so the player can see them and possibly react. Maximal flying time across a view would be between 1-2 seconds

I personally think in regardence to the gun system, there should not be any wait, for the exclusion of reloading

Ok so to compile everyone's ideas I think we come up with the following:

W: Jump/Climb Up
A: Left
S: Crouch/Climb Down
D: Right
Q: Previous Weapon
E: Next Weapon
R: Reload
Mouse: Aim
Left Click: Use Current Weapon
Right Click: Change Attack Mode

But how will this work with different attachments on your weapon? Would you just be able to set default weapon attachments for each weapon, so that when you switch on to a weapon you already have the attachments you want?

Some weapons have attachemnt possibilites, which means that they don't have secondary fire even without the attachment. If a gun has an attachment attached, right mouse button changes to that firing mode or switches the gadget(laser sight, flashlight) on/off. When you equip weapons somewhere, yes, the attachments are atatched already, and you can't use them in other weapons in the meantime. However, you can take the attachments off and put them on to another weapon. I think this attachment swapping thing would need a workbench or something, not necessary though

Case Closed:

W: Jump/Climb Up
A: Left
S: Crouch/Climb Down
D: Right
Q: Previous Weapon
E: Next Weapon
R: Reload
Mouse: Aim
Left Click: Use Current Weapon
Right Click: Change Attack Mode

I'm going to lock this thread. The final decision has been made. Slight modifications may need to be made later though.

I don't think this is closed, How about the Activate/Use key? Space, right? or something else?

You mean to activate/use an item?

Well I think the Shift button can suit that purpose. It falls right in allignment with your hand position. What do you think?

And to pick up an item, do you just walk over it and it goes to inventory or whatever, or do you have to press something. I think it should be done automatically. When you press Shift, what item is used? How do you set it?

...

Just a few questions evryone probably has.

I mean, Go through a door, pull a lever, enter a passcode. That kind of Activation/Use

Ah, right... I forgot to include that. It was part of the plan though. Thanks.

W: Jump/Climb Up
A: Left
S: Crouch/Climb Down
D: Right
Q: Previous Weapon
E: Next Weapon
R: Reload
Space Bar: Interaction
Mouse: Aim
Left Click: Use Current Weapon
Right Click: Change Attack Mode

There should be an option to transpose shift and F12 button...

Hacker wrote:

There should be an option to transpose shift and F12 button...

Why?

So you accedently leave the game?

BTW I still want a spacebar jump, maybe have Shift as interaction instead?

I prefer W because jumping is not a thing every player do all the time. Space might be used a lot more because you have to interact with 5+ objects per level.